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Post by truckiel12 on Feb 4, 2008 16:14:04 GMT -5
Does anyone know what causes such excessive discoloration to the gear? Or is this just cheap material?
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Post by cooter on Feb 4, 2008 16:17:38 GMT -5
It's normal for it to do that. It's designed so that you know when the material has been exposed to the high point heat and needs to be replaced. Judging by the way that gear looks... it needs replacement.
both black nomex and pbi change red or yellow...
the tan stuff turns a puke orange usually...
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Post by schmidty on Feb 4, 2008 16:23:09 GMT -5
dam somebody saw some heat wonder what the pack looks like
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Post by PUMP on Feb 4, 2008 16:29:48 GMT -5
Does anyone know what causes such excessive discoloration to the gear? Or is this just cheap material? it took high heat... the gear is starting to break down when it changes color. It needs to be replaced or it will fail and fall apart the next time it sees work. Black nomax and black gear in general is good for showing signs of failure.
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Post by litick on Feb 4, 2008 19:10:26 GMT -5
dam somebody saw some heat wonder what the pack looks like Screw that, How did the leather look! Must of seen some good heat.
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Post by schmidty on Feb 4, 2008 22:12:14 GMT -5
dam somebody saw some heat wonder what the pack looks like Screw that, How did the leather look! Must of seen some good heat. this is also true
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Post by fdleathers on Feb 13, 2008 14:08:47 GMT -5
Looks like someone is showing off the gear they used for stoking a training fire. I would be willing to bet, that he got some kind of burn injury from the gear looking like that.
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Post by irons on Feb 14, 2008 13:09:34 GMT -5
GET RID OF THAT TURNOUT GEAR ASAP!!!!!!
Its supposed to change color when the material fails from heat exposure! Damn man thats alot off heat! alot of towns around here are changing from tan to black gear for that reason.
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Post by irons on Feb 14, 2008 13:11:01 GMT -5
Its nice to see people read and understand the manuals for their turnout gear upkeep and maintenance. (
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Post by fdleathers on Feb 14, 2008 22:06:52 GMT -5
GET RID OF THAT TURNOUT GEAR ASAP!!!!!! Its supposed to change color when the material fails from heat exposure! Damn man thats alot off heat! alot of towns around here are changing from tan to black gear for that reason. Not sure what you are getting at with this? Changing from Tan to Black gear for what reason? He is wearing black gear, Tan gear will also change colors also. After looking more at the picture, it looks like that gear may have been taken out of service, but he put it back in with another company. Look at the "MVFD", not burnt up like the coat, looks like it was added after the fact. In this case, if the fire company that used to own it, should have destroyed it. If he gets injuried using it now, that fire company could have some liability issues to deal with. To answer your question about his "leather", look in his left hand.
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Post by irons on Feb 18, 2008 14:07:23 GMT -5
GET RID OF THAT TURNOUT GEAR ASAP!!!!!! Its supposed to change color when the material fails from heat exposure! Damn man thats alot off heat! alot of towns around here are changing from tan to black gear for that reason. Not sure what you are getting at with this? Changing from Tan to Black gear for what reason? He is wearing black gear, Tan gear will also change colors also. After looking more at the picture, it looks like that gear may have been taken out of service, but he put it back in with another company. Look at the "MVFD", not burnt up like the coat, looks like it was added after the fact. In this case, if the fire company that used to own it, should have destroyed it. If he gets injuried using it now, that fire company could have some liability issues to deal with. To answer your question about his "leather", look in his left hand. Believe it or not the city of middletown experienced problems with their tan gear, for some reason and i dont know which they said its easier to tell with black gear, so they are making the switch. I have seen both personally and its easier to see burned up spots with black gear.
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Post by fdleathers on Feb 18, 2008 20:05:23 GMT -5
Sorry, did not understand your post at first. You are correct, it is easier to tell how much heat a black coat has seen, over a tan/yellow/gold coat. Most departments I deal with like the black, because you dont have to clean it as much. Personally, mine gets cleaned once or twice a year (sent out). Usually after a fire, it will just get hosed off, and air dried at my rack.
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Post by irons on Feb 25, 2008 15:48:58 GMT -5
The great thing about my departments black morning pride is that we are the only town in the county that wears black. So if we get called to a fire or any other call where there are multiple towns operating, we can look around and go "ok that guy is a saybrook guy". It helps out with accountability.
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Post by cooter on Feb 25, 2008 22:35:07 GMT -5
GET RID OF THAT TURNOUT GEAR ASAP!!!!!! Its supposed to change color when the material fails from heat exposure! Damn man thats alot off heat! alot of towns around here are changing from tan to black gear for that reason. Not sure what you are getting at with this? Changing from Tan to Black gear for what reason? He is wearing black gear, Tan gear will also change colors also. After looking more at the picture, it looks like that gear may have been taken out of service, but he put it back in with another company. Look at the "MVFD", not burnt up like the coat, looks like it was added after the fact. In this case, if the fire company that used to own it, should have destroyed it. If he gets injuried using it now, that fire company could have some liability issues to deal with. To answer your question about his "leather", look in his left hand. It doesn't matter.. O.O.S. PPE has no business on a fire ground... FYI fire retardant material is designed to change color much like your sparklers on the 4th of July have colors when burned.
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Post by cooter on Feb 25, 2008 22:37:07 GMT -5
Sorry, did not understand your post at first. You are correct, it is easier to tell how much heat a black coat has seen, over a tan/yellow/gold coat. Most departments I deal with like the black, because you dont have to clean it as much. Personally, mine gets cleaned once or twice a year (sent out). Usually after a fire, it will just get hosed off, and air dried at my rack. The most ignorant comment I've seen on here besides the "ALF are the best" comments! "because you dont have to clean it as much" WOW... Looking dirty has nothing to do with the "cleaning" part...
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