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Post by PUMP on Dec 14, 2008 20:06:49 GMT -5
WEST EARL TOWNSHIP LANCASTER COUNTY, PA
BOX ALARM 313 PIC w/ENTRAPMENT
ROUTE 222 SOUTH BOUND C/S POOL ROAD
Reported one pick-up into a bridge reported on fire with no one getting out.
FIRST ALARM RESCUE ASSIGNMENT
ENGINE 313-1
TANKER 313
RESCUE SQUAD 115
MEDIC 4
AMBULANCE 210
Patrol car 88-6 on scene reporting heavy entrapment with one into a bridge.
Command 313 requesting the second due rescue squad be added to the assignment.
ADD/EXTRICATION ASSIGNMENT
LADDER/RESCUE SQUAD 24
RUNNING EXTRA
SQUAD 115-2
Command 313 advising Rescue Squad 115 of extenstive entrapment at this time.
Command advising Medic 4 if they want aero-medical to fly.
ETA of aero-medical is 7 minutes if they need it.
ADD/AERO-MEDICAL
MEDEVAC 8
L/RS 24 going to work on the drivers side on arrival.
Command confirming with operations if they want aero-medical to fly... Go with the direct fly per operations.
Direct fly of Medevac 8 to the scene.
Medevac 8 ready to land, grounding on the highway's northside of the incident... command advising them to hold in the air till they shut down traffic.
Medevac 8 grounded @ 20:26 Hours
Command requesting Company 12 Fire Police to the Pool Road overpass for crowd control.
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Post by PUMP on Dec 14, 2008 20:49:35 GMT -5
Flight medic advising pilot to power down chopper.
Medic 4 to contact LGH ASAP with report.
One hour mark, Extrication still on going.
EXTRICATION ASSIGNMENT/UNITS STILL WORKING
ENGINE 313-1
TANKER 313
LADDER/RESCUE SQUAD 24
RESCUE SQUAD 115
SQUAD 115-2
TRAFFIC 313
FIRE POLICE 12
MEDIC 4
AMBULANCE 210
MEDEVAC 8
Command advising D/C 12 that Medevac 8 is powering back up at this time, Patient almost extricated @ 21:11 Hours.
Operations advising command the patient is freed at this time and in care of EMS.
Command marking extrication completed @ 21:12Hours
Patrol Car 88-6 advising communications that he will need two tow units to the scene... one for a Dodge 2500 pick-up truck and for a large trailer attached to the truck.
Command advising Medevac 8 is in flight with patient aboard @ 21:20 hours.
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Post by PUMP on Dec 14, 2008 21:42:25 GMT -5
Pictures will be up soon... PUMPFIRE staff members on scene.
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Post by Dane on Dec 14, 2008 21:47:11 GMT -5
I'm curious about the pictures, hopefully they're up soon. I was at walmart when this was dispatched so I didn't have my camera. Hopefully the PT or PTs will be ok!
As for crowd control on the overpass, they really cant tell people to leave can they? Maybe people just checking it out, but if your taking pictures they cant ask you to leave. You can hide behind "photographer rights" correct?
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Post by PUMP on Dec 14, 2008 21:53:57 GMT -5
I'm curious about the pictures, hopefully they're up soon. I was at walmart when this was dispatched so I didn't have my camera. Hopefully the PT or PTs will be ok! As for crowd control on the overpass, they really cant tell people to leave can they? Maybe people just checking it out, but if your taking pictures they cant ask you to leave. You can hide behind "photographer rights" correct? I think the crowd control was for safety due to aero-medical landing close to overpass. As for pictures... Depends on your working relationship with local emergency crews and how the scene is being handled... basically, if a general member of the public can be there, you can too taking photographs. The only thing photography right protect you from is if they ask you to stop taking photographs from a controled area with the general public. |
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Post by ifightfire on Dec 14, 2008 21:54:51 GMT -5
I would think they can if it's a safety issue which this seemed to be due to the chopper landing on the highway near the bridge.
Sorry pump I must have been posting at the same time you were.
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Post by Dane on Dec 14, 2008 22:02:20 GMT -5
I guess thats true, but it would depend on how close it is i guess. from the pictures i always get on rt 222 i am always on the overpasses, and never had a problem. even with helicopters they usually land further down. if someone were to tell me to leave because its landing, i'd get in my car and drive down and park off the over pass, and wait for it to land, then go back to taking pictures. a road is public property, and being on an overpass isnt being in the way of the operations of whats going on below. but i can understand the issue of it landing/taking off, but in between they can't do anything i would think.
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Post by PUMP on Dec 14, 2008 22:33:34 GMT -5
I guess thats true, but it would depend on how close it is i guess. from the pictures i always get on rt 222 i am always on the overpasses, and never had a problem. even with helicopters they usually land further down. if someone were to tell me to leave because its landing, i'd get in my car and drive down and park off the over pass, and wait for it to land, then go back to taking pictures. a road is public property, and being on an overpass isnt being in the way of the operations of whats going on below. but i can understand the issue of it landing/taking off, but in between they can't do anything i would think. Was there an issue with photographers on scene? or is this just a general question for what could happen? I know most of the Police/Fire Departments in that area, and they are the most under standing officers when it comes to fire ground photographers. Id say if there is a problem they will give it just cause and will never hassle anyone for no reason. But, just because you have a camera doesn't give you anymore rights then anyone from the general public. As stated before, "Photographer rights" just protects you if they try to make you more restricted from the area then anyone else from the general public. |
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Post by PUMP on Dec 14, 2008 23:11:02 GMT -5
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Post by Dane on Dec 14, 2008 23:55:23 GMT -5
Chris,
No it was just an in general question, i've never had a problem. I've spoke with a few people at 3-13 earlier this year and they have no problems with me going out to their calls and taking pictures, as long as i send them some for their site. I was just curious though as photographers in general, not just in our county but anywhere.
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Post by L.Mohler on Dec 16, 2008 12:49:41 GMT -5
I guess thats true, but it would depend on how close it is i guess. from the pictures i always get on rt 222 i am always on the overpasses, and never had a problem. even with helicopters they usually land further down. if someone were to tell me to leave because its landing, i'd get in my car and drive down and park off the over pass, and wait for it to land, then go back to taking pictures. a road is public property, and being on an overpass isnt being in the way of the operations of whats going on below. but i can understand the issue of it landing/taking off, but in between they can't do anything i would think. Dane, You are completely correct about the road being public property however there were other issues involved with the people on the overpass. The helicopter cleared the over pass by about 10 feet so that was an issue also the other issue was people leaning over the railing trying to see what was happening. Command 3-13 made the right decision to remove the crowd before someone fell off the overpass onto the highway. Yes it can be a touchy situation but knowing the reason was safety of the "rubberneckers" I would have to agree with commands decision. |
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