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Post by engine922 on Nov 17, 2008 20:48:54 GMT -5
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Post by cooter on Nov 18, 2008 2:27:48 GMT -5
How did that Scott bottle on the MSA harness work out? ;D LOL
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Post by PUMP on Nov 18, 2008 2:56:58 GMT -5
How did that Scott bottle on the MSA harness work out? ;D LOL I'll be damned... Dont see that too much. ;D |
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Post by engine922 on Nov 18, 2008 7:30:41 GMT -5
It worked just fine, obviously. ;D
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Post by will95lineofficer on Nov 20, 2008 6:23:11 GMT -5
I hate to be the one to point this out but having the furniture in there still can't be complaint with nfpa 1403. I just point it out cause we all know the danger with live burn and the liability we take as instructors doing a live burn and not following nfpa 1403 puts even more liability on us and makes the risk of injury to our crews even bigger. cause 1403 is for our safety.
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Post by engine922 on Nov 26, 2008 0:07:32 GMT -5
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:I really do not appreciate the pic of burning couches being sent to firefighterclosecalls.com. You basically used the pic without my permission. If you have a problem with the pic then tell me in a PM or something, not use it against the dept. You have no idea what precautions were taken or safety procedures were put in place prior to the pic. So much for the brotherhood. 
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Post by PUMP on Nov 26, 2008 0:15:01 GMT -5
They must have taken it down, or I cant find it... FF close calls are famous for stealing stuff off other websites and bashing them. That why I watermark all of PUMPFIRE's photos.
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Post by engine922 on Nov 26, 2008 0:34:12 GMT -5
Its there under the gallery section with the title NFPA1403? I sent them an email asking to take it down. I don't know if they will or not.
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Post by Eastwood-8210 on Nov 26, 2008 10:45:12 GMT -5
It was still up as of1045 this morning. And I have to echo Shane's statement that, you have no idea what is going on w/ that photo. Pictures do speak a thousand words, but w/o proper knowledge you may get the wrong thousand...
Seems to me that Brotherhood is more of a concept that is given lip-service, but more often than not people are just as happy to throw you under the bus...
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Post by will95lineofficer on Nov 26, 2008 16:55:27 GMT -5
If your accusing me your wrong, I brought it up here so it could hopefully become a learning tool for the readers on the forum and they would think outside the box and realize that even though everything else may have been perfect one small thing such as a couch could change everything. I am a supporter of nfpa 1403 because i come from a department that done several burns back in the day and didn't even come close to following nfpa 1403. We had several problems in the end. Due the departments ignorance to so safe fire teaching technique we almost killed 3 fire fighters and injured several more. Due to this and other incidents in kentucky we have statewide adopted NFPA 1403 to the letter it will be followed with all aquired structures. Since then we have no major incidents occur in our no major injuries occur. And i can safely and honestly say it becuase of the use of NFPA 1403. If you don't agree thats fine alot people on my department still think it's a crock of bull and they were doing it right when they almost killed people. But just like i'v told them it ain't going to hurt anyone to follow NFPA 1403 if you don't we know it will hurt someone we have seen first hand proof.
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Post by Eastwood-8210 on Nov 26, 2008 19:01:49 GMT -5
I doubt seriously that Shane is accusing you, in particular, and more just speaking out.
The pic is being taken out of context, though, and does not belong in the gallery on FFCC.
That fire on the couch was not a "training fire" in the traditional sense. It was set to burn the house down. No extinguishing was ever done on it. It was watched by members of the dept ,staged at exits, to watch the fire grow into pre-flash conditions (everyone left prior to it becoming a danger) so they could see how a fire grows and progresses. And yes there were charged handlines in place should it have necessary to knock it back.
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Post by engine922 on Nov 26, 2008 23:36:48 GMT -5
I am not accusing anyone. I am just upset about the whole thing.
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Post by engine922 on Dec 3, 2008 11:23:58 GMT -5
This was the response I received back from the website: This pic was submitted to us earlier this week. It was not watermarked or anything to that fact. If it was posted on your website I would suggest you do not post pics that show obvious violations to NFPA 1403/Firefighter Safety (www.in.gov/dhs/files/nfpa1403.pdf) as this is the same way a firefighter was killed in Lairdsville, NY (http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/face200138.html) and that you watermark your pics in the future. Without a watermark we have no proof who the owner is nor does this photo ID any department, etc. Please remember the purpose of www.FirefighterCloseCalls.com – FIREFIGHTER SAFETY! Thanks! Brian P. Kazmierzak Director of Operations Technical Editor www.firefighterclosecalls.combrian@firefighterclosecalls.com My chief did see it which I thought he would be pissed but he laughed about it with me and sent an email to Billy explaining to him the exact details of what we were doing. |
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Post by PUMP on Dec 3, 2008 13:25:45 GMT -5
This was the response I received back from the website: This pic was submitted to us earlier this week. It was not watermarked or anything to that fact. If it was posted on your website I would suggest you do not post pics that show obvious violations to NFPA 1403/Firefighter Safety (www.in.gov/dhs/files/nfpa1403.pdf) as this is the same way a firefighter was killed in Lairdsville, NY (http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/face200138.html) and that you watermark your pics in the future. Without a watermark we have no proof who the owner is nor does this photo ID any department, etc. Please remember the purpose of www.FirefighterCloseCalls.com – FIREFIGHTER SAFETY! Thanks! Brian P. Kazmierzak Director of Operations Technical Editor www.firefighterclosecalls.combrian@firefighterclosecalls.com My chief did see it which I thought he would be pissed but he laughed about it with me and sent an email to Billy explaining to him the exact details of what we were doing. Yeah, let them pull a bullshit move on a photo of mine like that... Oh you can prove its yours without a watermark then talk to a lawyer about copyright infringment. |
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Post by cooter on Dec 3, 2008 19:31:58 GMT -5
This was the response I received back from the website: This pic was submitted to us earlier this week. It was not watermarked or anything to that fact. If it was posted on your website I would suggest you do not post pics that show obvious violations to NFPA 1403/Firefighter Safety (www.in.gov/dhs/files/nfpa1403.pdf) as this is the same way a firefighter was killed in Lairdsville, NY (http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/face200138.html) and that you watermark your pics in the future. Without a watermark we have no proof who the owner is nor does this photo ID any department, etc. Please remember the purpose of www.FirefighterCloseCalls.com – FIREFIGHTER SAFETY! Thanks! Brian P. Kazmierzak Director of Operations Technical Editor www.firefighterclosecalls.combrian@firefighterclosecalls.com My chief did see it which I thought he would be pissed but he laughed about it with me and sent an email to Billy explaining to him the exact details of what we were doing. Yeah, let them pull a bullshit move on a photo of mine like that... Oh you can prove its yours without a watermark then talk to a lawyer about copyright infringment. yep, show them rest of the photo series b/c most cameras stamp what kind of camera took it and when. Then you can prove you have the originals... I like firefighterclosecalls.com, but they handled this terribly and b/c of this I unsubscribed from their email. I sent them a nice email saying they used one of my pictures too... LOL. Just to rial them up! lol |
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